(;GM[1]FF[3] RU[AGA] GC[Anni decided on the size an handicap she wanted to see what happens :-) ] SZ[19]HA[0]KM[0] PW[Anthony] PB[AFactor] GN[Anthony (W) vs. AFactor (B)] DT[1997-10-05] SY[Cgoban 1.8.2]TM[-]C[Your move with a hanicap of 1 ];B[dd];W[dp]; B[pd];W[pp]C[(W) No real suprises so far, real adventurous are we? ]; B[cn] C[(B) It's a little early especially as I am taking first tentative steps all alone on big board. ] ;W[ck] C[(W) Pincher move! No don't worry this is typical response at this point. ] ;B[el]C[(B) Why Pincher, was the move named after a person? ];W[gq] C[(W) NO, because you were being squeesed such that you couldn't form a safe base, only move is a defensive run into center which you did. ] ;B[bp]C[(B) I often play defensively I think. ];W[cf] C[(W) I wouldn't call that last move defensive :-) Neither is this one ] ;B[df]C[(B) I did say often, not always :-) & that's my corner!!! ]; W[dg];B[cg];W[ch]C[ ];B[bg] C[(B) D14 should have been D11. Just a typo - 4 is above 1 on number pad - it probably means I should cut fingernails :-) ] ;W[bf]C[(W) I'll go back if you like! ];B[dh] C[(B) No, it's fine thanx -- Atari ];W[eg];B[bh];W[ci] C[(W) Now what? ];B[ce];W[ef] C[(W) It is a reasonable move at this time. Mine is also very reasonable. ] ;B[de]C[(B) Indeed, & if mine errs, it is on the side of caution ]; W[ei]C[(W) I'll be cautious as well ];B[fd];W[qf] C[(W) You anticapted my next move. Ok lets go for the other corner! ] ;B[pg]C[(B) ok, I'll just play just follow the the leader ];W[nc] C[(W) This is want I should have done on the other corner! ];B[lc] C[(B) I do hope you're mistaken ;-) ];W[ne] C[(W) No I am not mistaken :-) ];B[oc]C[(B) Oh, should I resign now? ] ;W[qk] C[(W) I wouldn't just yet, board is fairly even. Anything could happen ] ;B[qi]C[(B) It's not really an option yet. I should have added ;-) ]; W[jc] C[(W) No it is probably not, but I guess you are feeling squeezed! ]; B[jd]C[(B) Nah, it's just my funny way o' talkin' ;-) ];W[hc] C[(W) Lets just confuse the side ownership more! ];B[hd] C[(B) I doubt it needs it but feel free ];W[kd]C[(W) OK ];B[le];W[ld]; B[md];W[mc]C[(W) I could probably go N15 but this is good enough ]; B[jb]C[(B) Could be. ];W[kc]C[(W) Nice move(atari) ];B[ic] C[(B) Thanx. It seemed probable it would be (atari that is), justwasn't sure not sure where ] ;W[ib]C[(w) (atair again) ];B[id]C[(B) :-( Damage control ];W[kb] C[(W) Lets continue this (atari)  ];B[hb]C[(B) ok (atari) ];W[ja] C[(W) fair trade (capture K18) ];B[nd] C[(B) So many holes, I'm not sure which one to try to plug first ]; W[gc] C[(W) Destory my next move why dont you :-) OK, I'll stop the atari. ] ;B[gb]C[(B) One does one's humble best :-) ];W[qc] C[(W) Now to continue the attack ];B[nb] C[(B) Well if you insist (atari) ];W[mb]C[(W) OK! ];B[ma] C[(B) It just seems to keep happening (atari) ];W[lb] C[(W) You seem to have run out of steam ];B[pb] C[(B) That was really just damage control & stone was dead ages ]; W[oe]C[(W) What will you do now? ];B[od] C[(B) When in danger ... or alternatively plug another hole ];W[pf]; B[pe]C[(B) So it is, what now? ];W[og] C[(W) Form good shape and apply presure. ];B[oh] C[(B) That sounded a little like you were talking to yourself ];W[qg] C[(W) I was a bit ];B[ph]C[(B) You do attack a lot ];W[ng] C[(W) In this case it gave me a better situaltion than if I didn't ]; B[pl]C[(B) Time to play a little in your backyard ];W[qn] C[(W) Fair enough ];B[qe]C[(B) On the other hand. ];W[qb] C[(W) Back end play! ];B[rb]C[(B) Back to the future maybe ];W[ke] C[(W) I don't think so ];B[lf];W[kf];B[mh];W[mg];B[lg];W[qh];B[rh]; W[nh]C[ ];B[mi] C[(B) You set a little trap, yes? or maybe you set a big one & it's just that I can't see the forest for the trees ] ;W[oi] C[(W) Yeap I set you up. Took me a sleepless night to figure it out though, all these black and white spots in front of my eyes! My mistake being neted in, in the first place. By the way -- Atari ] ;B[pi] C[(B) Was expecting that, atari that is, it's next move I don't know, I hope it's worth lost sleep ;-) ] ;W[ni]C[(W) Just finalising last sequence, senti is again yours ]; B[pj];W[mj];B[ql];W[ki];B[kh];W[lh]C[(W) Atari ];B[li] C[(B) Capture M12. I didn't understand this (even checked board) but I assume you have your reasons ] ;W[lj] C[(W) Yes it is a sacrifice called `snap back' I give you a stone and you either lose worse or get all your stones clumped in one big lump. Atari ] ;B[lh]C[(B) ok, one predictable response ];W[me]C[(W) Cut! ];B[jg]; W[ge]C[(W) Now I peek! ];B[gd] C[(B) Shame on you! Atari, but I guess you knew that ];W[if];B[ji] C[(B) Atari ];W[kj]C[(W) I expected this. ];B[nj] C[(B) And this too no doubt ];W[oj]C[(W) For some time now - atari ]; B[nk];W[pk];B[rj] C[(B) Is it all still in accordance with you little plan? ];W[ok] C[(W) Well I was hopeing you would miss the posibility But I took it into account ] ;B[ol];W[nl];B[mk];W[ml];B[lk];W[kk];B[ll];W[lm];B[kl] C[(B) You nearly done, this is all a bit pre destined ;-) ];W[jl] C[(W) I wondered when you would notice you can't win as it is a ladder. A go proverb on ladders is `` Each rung on a ladder is 13 points '' or something like that. You should have given it up after my stone at O8, move 110. ] ;B[rk] C[(B) I know of ladders, & should have realised but just wasn't paying proper attention, give self idiot of the week award :-( I won't rewind thanx, it will serve during remainder of game as a reminder ] ;W[rg] C[(W) I really did wonder what you were doing, I kept checking the previous moves to see if some sort of mistake was made, couldn't find any. ] ;B[re] C[(B) Mistake was made, but not of the variety you mean. It was me grabbing wrong variation & moving at P8. ] ;W[on] C[(W) OK. You didn't fall for my last move. I will protect and fence. ] ;B[rm];W[rn]C[ ];B[sn];W[so];B[sm];W[rp]C[(W) Now what? ];B[qm] C[(B) When in state of indecision, fix fences. ];W[sl] C[(W)Was best move I can find for you but.. now Death Move for your group! I can't see an escape for it. ] ;B[sg] C[(B) At the moment must take your word for this as I can't see it. ]; W[sf]C[(W) Doesn't hurt to check it out! ];B[sh] C[(B) Particularly when I seem unable to see the inevitable ];W[ri] C[(W) Double Atari (sacrifice move). Applogies, I have spotted a flaw from which you could survive, with the groups life anyway. ] ;B[si] C[(B) Don't apologise, I'm delighted to hear it (capture S11) but I guess you knew that! ] ;W[qj]C[(W) Yes but what will you do now! Atari ];B[ri] C[(B) I would have thought this move very predictable ];W[of] C[(W) Hmm your counter attack could be worse than I thought, due to a ``shortage of freedoms''. So I take a precaution I should have done long before.You have quite a number of choices now! ] ;B[rf]C[(B) This one will do very nicely thank you. Atari ];W[km] C[(W) I thought about moving at S14 last move but fould that If you move P14 after that you would create that shortage of freedoms which would cause me to loose all my stones! ] ;B[ih]C[(B) No, that was before I made hideous mistake ];W[gf];B[dj]; W[di]C[(W) Oh you are going on the attack hey! ];B[cj] C[(B) I got tired of mending fences! ];W[bi]C[(W) Understandable ]; B[be] C[(B) actually, it's closer to a delayed response to your earlier attack ] ;W[ej]C[(W) It was a good move anyway ];B[dk]C[(B) Thanx ];W[gj];B[ik] C[(B) I hope I got it right, I suspect one one false step here = big disaster ] ;W[ij]C[(W) You could say that! ];B[hg] C[(B) Actually, suspect it's lost, but try anyway :-) ];W[ie] C[(W) No connection here - bamboo joints all the way! This is why I played G14 instead of else where ] ;B[bj] C[(B) It seemed likely, I was tempted to take spot instead of J12 during playback but it didn't seem reasonable, I hadn't seen it before you played it ] ;W[dn];B[dm] C[(B) It don't think it would have changed this, although it might have been able to reduce damage a little but so might a number of other alternatives anyway none of 'em happened ;-) ] ;W[en]C[(W) Game is most interesting. Lots of twists and turns ];B[cq] C[(B) Glad you think so, I do too but had wondered if it was just because of my limited experience that I found it so. ] ;W[gl];B[hl];W[hk];B[fm];W[co];B[bo];W[em];B[bm];W[fl];B[gm];W[hm]; B[fo];W[dq];B[ep];W[eq];B[gp];W[go];B[ho] C[(B) The game is getting a little like a mine field again ];W[do]; B[hq];W[gn];B[fn];W[hn];B[io];W[fq];B[fp];W[jo];B[jp] C[(B) Phew! not quite dead yet, I thought it would be different move ] ;W[kp];B[jq];W[kq] C[(W) Phew I thought you would have moved at L3 What was the move you expected me to make at 186? ] ;B[kr] C[I think I could easily have lost L3, it leaves you potential for atari then atari. The move I didn't wish you to make (at move 186) was H2 ] ;W[lr]C[(W) The 186 move at H2 would have been countered with J3 ]; B[ks] C[(B) Yes immediate threat would have been but potentially very messy extended along that edge/joined to G3 it could have taken whole edge & left stones around H4 cut off ] ;W[ir] C[(W) You just made a big mistake K2 or K1 should have been your move But at that time you had the whole area to the left to grab at terriory and be very safe. ] ;B[hr]C[(B) Is true :-( ];W[hp]C[(W) Big Atari ];B[ip];W[eo] C[(W) Ditto ];B[hp];W[jr] C[(W) You are really falling to bits! The problem started back at about move 170. As soon as I had cut you off you should have tried to make a safe group at L3, instead of trying to survive in that tight area. After my move at E3 (move 174) you had real problems. ] ;B[gr] C[(B) That was just in case I wasn't sufficiently demoralized? ;-) It may not have been safe, but it has been interesting ] ;W[fr] C[(W) No that was to try an teach you for future games. I fall in the same trap. Looks like quite a trick situation is developing. ] ;B[dr] C[(B) Thanx I did realise intention was to consider for future games & hope I am learning from it, I did add ;-) Not demoralised at all, do groan a little when I think of ladder or move at L1 but having a lovely game :-) The trick situation has been developing since way back when, it's that mine field I mentioned ] ;W[es] C[(W) Even so it looks like I neglected grabing the corner in the heat of battle. As it is you will probably win the capture race. Current game scores are approximately 126 W vs 68 black ] ;B[ds] C[(B) Yes I probably shall, that was plan, just lost extreme stones. If you mean the area in the very corner, it was not up for grabs, just the section towards the center Do you have a board representing scoring, I can't figure it out. I can only get winMGT to estimate by filling in areas that I think are yours & those I think I would hold. ] ;W[jn] C[(W) It was you move at G5 which I neglected. If I played their instead of K2 I would not be in the dire straight I am in now losing this capture race. I am one move behind due to neeing this move. For the score I just sort of roughly finished off the game, removed prisioners and had it count it up. It represents the score after you win the capture race. ] ;B[is] C[(B) I didn't move at G5, you did, I couldn't see what move you thought would have saved this area if you'd played it instead of K2 Also I cannot figure why there is such a dramatic difference in estimations. Our concepts of the finished board must be very different, maybe you can see why, I have left mine at http://www.ozemail.com.au/~iconoweb/temp/go.gif ] ;W[ls] C[(W) Now this was not what I expected you to do, may change the whole capture race! PS: I ment G2 belwo not G5. As for score you have not told me what score you think the game will come out to. Oh... You do know that you don't have to actually kill prisioners! At the end of the game they are just removed. Strange My score now comes to White 120 Black 111 Looks like this could become a close game. Current library board shows this situation. ] ;B[er] C[(B) No, it won't change the race, just elimates a point that you may have gained. If you mean you should have moved at G2 not K2, I don't think it would have won this area for you but it would have made it a bit more difficult for me. Yes, I know you don't have to remove prisoners, although winMGT does it differently to your program, it removes stones completely but I was partly looking for a flaw in areas I thought were safe to account for score. Well that's a relief, my score was similar to your new one, depending on variations I tried it ended with you five to ten ahead. You were probably in a bit much of a rush first time ] ;W[gs] C[(W) No in all my scenarios the best was lost by one move My move at G2 which reversed the situation. ] ;B[cp]C[(B) Well, it never happened, so we'll never know ];W[rc] C[(W) I would like to rewind after the game as see what would have happend if I played G2 instead of K2! If you are agreeable. ] ;B[qa] C[(B) I do beleive that's my corner! Sure, would be happy to rewind & see what would have eventuated in alternate universe ] ;W[la]C[(W) I don't know I have always considered it in doubt. ];B[na] C[(B) Now, why does that not surprise me! ];W[ob] C[(W) :-) Just hadn't gotten around to this before. ];B[oa] C[(B) RIP P18 ];W[ra]C[ ];B[sb] C[(B) Moves coming thick & fast, you want to capture corner before you leave for day? ] ;W[sd]C[(W) Changed your style I see :-) ];B[rd] C[(B) Didn't understand this - style of play has changed? I didn't think so, how? ] ;W[pc] C[(W) You stopped capturing my sacrifices! I expectd you to take the proffered stone at S19 with T19 :-) Well the outcome is still the same! The worm (me) turns! ] ;B[ob] C[(B) I don't always take sacrifices or hadn't you noticed, also The worm can turn all it likes, outcome is the same ;-) ] ;W[sc]C[(W) Let the battle continue! ];B[se] C[(B) By all means. I an doing what you expect this time, I gather that's what little black shadow indicates, Another sacrifice to the cause T14 ] ;W[pa] C[(W) If you left that move out, you would be in worse trouble. I take your sacrifice at R19 ] ;B[sf]C[(B) Am I in trouble? I thought everything was hunky dory ;-) ] ;W[sk]C[(W) Supprise #1 All to plan so far. ];B[qd] C[(B) Is it indeed, fascinating! ];W[sa] C[(W) Capture two stones. You havn't seen suprise 2 yet! Have to go now. Back tomorrow 10am. ] ;B[sb]C[(B) No, I haven't & am mystified ];W[om]C[(W) ;-) ];B[rl] C[(B) Good morning :-) ];W[pm]C[(W) Morning yourself. Atari! ];B[qa] C[(B) Offer sacrifice to the gods, Q19 ];W[dl] C[(W) Suprise #2 Double atari! ];B[cl] C[(B) Capture D8, you have more surprises. Atari ];W[pa] C[(W) I now take your offering to the gods! Humungous Atari! This is why it now practical for me to attack the corner. kk ] ;B[sj] C[(B)Indeed it is, two more stones to the great quarry in the sky ]; W[sk]C[(W) (or T8 if you prefer :-) ];B[qa] C[(B) Q19 bites the dust again!! ];W[cr] C[(W) OK. Now you get to chose, left me save my group at bottom score difference about 70 points. Or save all your stones along right edge.. more than 90 points. Your choice :-) For the future... * move 233: R19 instead of S8 would have been better and would have lead to a smaller loss. * Simularly take those stones with F1 at move 237 would also have been better. ] ;B[rb] C[(B) Wondered where you were going to go, I should have thought of that little spot Choice seems obvious - also resign :-) ] ;W[cs]C[Black resigns.... ] )